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- Thread starter ZoomerP
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Low Rpms ????
What are they ???
1600 to 3500 ?
What are they ???
1600 to 3500 ?
Doesn’t really matter how it runs at really low RPM. Just because the bike is going slow doesn’t mean the engine should. Stretch the throttle cable and use the clutch. It’s almost a dirt bike !
Had a great vid of Bou riding steps on the Rev limiter. But it won’t post from fb to here. https://fb.watch/b6zyi1a371/
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Hard to say, I beat the fook out of a Yamaha YZ clutch and get over a season on it. It should be thought of as a consumable like brake pads, tires and gas. If you try to ride off road with just the throttle it will suck for you. I was taught from a young age throttle is Course power control and clutch is fine.
The other way to think of it is throttle position is available power. Clutch controls power to the rear wheel.
The other way to think of it is throttle position is available power. Clutch controls power to the rear wheel.
mine i feel does it all, low mid high,i dont use the clutch much, i tend to carry momemtem and not alot of rpm,
My L is really Electric im throttle, power,
When i had vortex on it was like a 125 2 stroke compared to now,
The hit and throttle was not smooth,
But really made no more power until 8500,
and it was not useable to me,
sometime you need to carry more rpm /speed and transhion to that is easy on mine,
Now mine is just right
it would do trials if i put a 13/53 on it,
Whoa
My low RPM technique involves:
- Throttle Tamer
- Steahly flywheel weight
- Tubliss System running 5-8 psi
- Lots of clutch when necessary
- Momentum
The Tubliss has worked ok. I've been running around 20 psi for pavement rides. I have done shorter pavement sections (10-15 miles) on dual sport rides with 8-10 psi with no issues...... so far.
really depends on the tires.
Motoz hybrids (moutain&extrem) are surprisingly "fine" at highway speeds with low pressures (said 8-10 psi.. or even less). Something with softer sidewalls I need to air up, then it's also fine.
I balance my wheels because the rimlock in the tubliss adds a lot of weight.
I really don't have a lot to contribute here or complain about...My 21RL does everything I ask of it. Yes the glitchy throttle is there at low RPM but not a big issue for me. My bike is stock except for some exhaust mods and a 14T CS sprocket.
If this was my first bike I'm sure there would be a big learning curve on many fronts. The off idle throttle response might be at the top of the list and a much larger concern out on the trail. To those that are struggling with this:
From a riding technique stand point, like others have said use momentum and clutch control to help in the slower trail sections. Avoid 1st gear and use 2nd gear whenever possible even in slower sections. Cover the clutch with at least one finger, preferably two and practice slowly pulling the clutch just to the point where the engine speed increases 1000 RPM or so. Then letting it back out while riding in 2nd gear under steady throttle in the 1/8 to 1/4 throttle range. Of course you don't want to do this for hours at a time...just try it for a few minutes. I would also recommend practicing a couple of 2nd gear starts from a stop. Do this without revving the bike up much...try to lower the RPMs without stalling the bike.
Putting this technique to use out on the trail is an important part of learning to ride off road. It will help when faced with slower tighter corners and up hills with roots and rocks.
If this was my first bike I'm sure there would be a big learning curve on many fronts. The off idle throttle response might be at the top of the list and a much larger concern out on the trail. To those that are struggling with this:
From a riding technique stand point, like others have said use momentum and clutch control to help in the slower trail sections. Avoid 1st gear and use 2nd gear whenever possible even in slower sections. Cover the clutch with at least one finger, preferably two and practice slowly pulling the clutch just to the point where the engine speed increases 1000 RPM or so. Then letting it back out while riding in 2nd gear under steady throttle in the 1/8 to 1/4 throttle range. Of course you don't want to do this for hours at a time...just try it for a few minutes. I would also recommend practicing a couple of 2nd gear starts from a stop. Do this without revving the bike up much...try to lower the RPMs without stalling the bike.
Putting this technique to use out on the trail is an important part of learning to ride off road. It will help when faced with slower tighter corners and up hills with roots and rocks.
Interesting that Booster Plug will no longer support the 2021 and later bikes
this reduces the available fuel adding options to
1) Vortex
2) JD
3) AUS ECU Hack
www.boosterplug.com
this reduces the available fuel adding options to
1) Vortex
2) JD
3) AUS ECU Hack
BoosterPlug - Tuning your Motorcycle Fuel Injection
If that was the case, then JD and Vortex would also bail.
I am not a fan of just adding x % fuel across the board as BP does.
Vortex is the ONLY Ecu that adjusts the Spark with the fuel. While the most expensive option, it is the most complete solution.
Vortex replace the complete ECU, which is the one having some mandatory code looking at funky things with sensors.. so it won't have that issue.
I guess it's the same with the JDtuner that "just" change the pulse command to the injector.. no tampering with sensors, no way for the ecu to "know" that something is wrong.
All of them can pretend that they are sold for "racing/closed course only", but JD and vortex won't leave a fault code/trace behind when you use them on the street.
Anybody hear anything about the AiM ecu from taco moto?
tacomoto.co
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Looks like taco moto may have a couple new options.
Keep us posted on the flywheel.
Pretty common to flash ecu's on modern bikes to fix EPA related annoyances. Is no one reflashing these bikes yet? Are aftermarket self tune thingys the only option?
The throttle on my FZ 09 was downright unusable, but it's butter smooth now. Way worse than the 450L I rode.
The throttle on my FZ 09 was downright unusable, but it's butter smooth now. Way worse than the 450L I rode.