Do you know how accurate the speedometer is? 65 indicated could mean a real 65 or it could mean 59 if it's 10% off like some bikes are.Having had all 3 versions, the 2022 is better in every way. The new engine and 5 speed transmission are a step forward. I wasn't sold on the 5th gear at first (who wants to shift an extra 25%?) but it works and the 2022 GROM is a little faster than the previous model. The seat is a major improvement and the suspension is a little softer which make the GROM a lot more comfortable. If I was forced to have only 1 bike, it probably would be a GROM. It does everything well.
klaviator I have hit 65 mph (indicated) several times on the new 2022. I hit 68 mph once which is as fast as the PCX will go.
I unfortunately do not know how accurate the speedometer is. But I think the GROM hits a legitimate 60 mph. There are several videos on You Tube where people hit 65 mph (speedo).Do you know how accurate the speedometer is? 65 indicated could mean a real 65 or it could mean 59 if it's 10% off like some bikes are.
I think I have read in a few reviews that around 59-60 was a realistic top speed but since there is no governor like on the PCX, you can do 65-70 going downhill.I unfortunately do not know how accurate the speedometer is. But I think the GROM hits a legitimate 60 mph. There are several videos on You Tube where people hit 65 mph (speedo).
It's pretty good for a little bike like that. I mean, it's only a 125 cc on 12 inch wheels. May be the 2022 Super Cub (also with the updated engine) is a little faster than the GROM?I think I have read in a few reviews that around 59-60 was a realistic top speed but since there is no governor like on the PCX, you can do 65-70 going downhill.
The Monkey bike is more comfortable and designed more for off road but for some reason I prefer the Grom. The Grom is more capable off road than you would think.If I had easy forest trails to ride it on nearby, I'd look at a Monkey. I like it a lot more than the Grom for some reason.
I heard the same thing from a salesman at a local dealer except for a PCX. He said that Honda advertises one MSRP but then charges them more. That's total BS. Every other dealer within a few hundred miles at least showed the correct MSRP even if they did add a bunch of charges. This same dealer Had a couple of ruckus's advertised as "on Sale" with the sales price being $1 under MSRP. I had to laugh at that. When I got home I googled the MSRP of the Ruckus and it was a few hundred dollars under what the dealer showed. The sad thing is that some people were probably stupid enough to pay that much. Luckily there are still some dealers out there that don't use such blatant lies.I went back out and rode to another dealer. It was a chance for me to ride the R18. I found one! A 2023 ABS model in pearl white. Dealer was asking $5,100 OTD. Hard pass. That's $5-600 more than what I'm willing to pay. I also heard a new one from the sales guy: we can't come down on price because Honda charges us an extra $400 over MSRP.
Gotta love the white one