I'm looking for a decent set of cold weather gloves. Currently I'm using my dirt bike gloves or leather work gloves, but they aren't cutting it below 60. Right now I'm looking at the klim hardander and the klim badlands gtx long. I'm kinda leaning towards the badlands just because while I hate cold hands, I'm not totally sold on wanting something else to forget to charge. I'd say average weather is 40-60 in the fall and winter with occasional dips into the 30's. I will be adding heated grips as well soon.