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The Beta Thread
- Thread starter CDN Rick
- Start date
My main counterpoint is that you're wrong.
But that's ok. Some people like riding around in clouds of boiling coolant vapor...
Who am I to judge.
Super Dirt Dud
Active member
So I have my second Beta 300 Super Smooth showing up in April I have been told and that is my favorite size Beta .It also will double as my enduro / Trail / all around dirt bike .
I have a second set of wheels so now I just have to figure out what the best enduro tires will be . I also have the seat / tank combo to give me a bit of rest and distance to ride with enduro guys .
I have had a few 200 and they are a sweet bike for my riding style but I am getting a Vertigo 200 this year and that is a true 225cc bike I am sure more than a few guys will want to test out both of these sweet machines !
I have a second set of wheels so now I just have to figure out what the best enduro tires will be . I also have the seat / tank combo to give me a bit of rest and distance to ride with enduro guys .
I have had a few 200 and they are a sweet bike for my riding style but I am getting a Vertigo 200 this year and that is a true 225cc bike I am sure more than a few guys will want to test out both of these sweet machines !
I've heard good things about those SuperSmooth bikes. Heavier flywheel and slower throttle right?
They seem to be popular with the guys around here who also ride vintage.
Yinzer Moto
Well-known member
On the rear, getting an enduro tire to stay seated can be difficult. I know of a couple guys who run enduro tires because they only trail ride. They had to install tubliss on their bikes.
Gravity
isnotmyfriend
The link worked for me. That poor little engine was screamin!80 is enough for Expert, so we probably only need like 20 ccs for INT
STRA Southeastern Trials Riders Association | Here's some Ray Peters 80cc magic on the Expert line at Ringgold a few weeks ago... | Facebook
Here's some Ray Peters 80cc magic on the Expert line at Ringgold a few weeks ago...www.facebook.com
edit, not sure the link works, but its the STRA public page, Ray Peters doing expert sections on a beetah 80.
Super Dirt Dud
Active member
I have been blessed to own every size bike currently made and the Super Smooth helps my riding .It has the big bike power on big hillclimbs it is easy to get through sections because it is tame like a 200 unless you throttle it .
I also feel it has the best power for trail riding and the seat tank combo helps with that task . I have also built up a parts cache including a set of wheels with rotors and sprockets and small items .
When I bought a 300 GG from Stu he did the. flywheel and gearing but I just felt the bike wasn't rite even though it should have been like the Super Smooth . So for me I think this is a bike that I will keep for awhile if it only had electric start !
Also since I plan on keeping it for awhile I plan on putting every conceivable body cover on it that I can . There is one size bike I didn't own an 80cc but other than that this will be a great bike .
I also feel it has the best power for trail riding and the seat tank combo helps with that task . I have also built up a parts cache including a set of wheels with rotors and sprockets and small items .
When I bought a 300 GG from Stu he did the. flywheel and gearing but I just felt the bike wasn't rite even though it should have been like the Super Smooth . So for me I think this is a bike that I will keep for awhile if it only had electric start !
Also since I plan on keeping it for awhile I plan on putting every conceivable body cover on it that I can . There is one size bike I didn't own an 80cc but other than that this will be a great bike .
mode12
Well-known member
f’n trials thread…
Nhuskys
Well-known member
Enjoy!
Stormdog
Well-known member
Jumping in on the coolant discussion,
I am a big fan of “Water Wetter” and distilled water.
I did have a problem on my KTM once though where the radiator froze solid transporting the bike to a ridding area in an open truck bed.
Not sure about the other types, but turns out “Water Wetter” has no antifreeze qualities.
I am a big fan of “Water Wetter” and distilled water.
I did have a problem on my KTM once though where the radiator froze solid transporting the bike to a ridding area in an open truck bed.
Not sure about the other types, but turns out “Water Wetter” has no antifreeze qualities.
Super Dirt Dud
Active member
So has anyone had a set of dedicated wheels for enduro tires for a Super Smooth I do have them and now I have to figure out what the best enduro tires will be for trail riding .
If anyone has experience with this what did you find worked the best ?
If anyone has experience with this what did you find worked the best ?
Yinzer Moto
Well-known member
Maxxis Trail Maxx, they are a trials pattern but about twice the spacing between knobs.
Trialmaxx M7319/M7320
This trail-riding motorcycle tyre is designed to provide grip, comfort and reliability to trail riders everywhere.
www.maxxis.com
Super Dirt Dud
Active member
I agree that seems like a great tire and I will add the Tubeless system also I have time the new bike will not be in till April at best .
I read in the manual that the stock spring on my Evo 200 is 70N/mm. When looking at the Beta USA site is this equivalent to a 7 Kg spring? So if I'm reading the chart correctly my bike is sprung for someone 130 - 150 lbs.
betausa.com
I was thinking at my 200lb weight that I was in between springs, but it looks like I'm right on the money with a 7.6 Kg spring.
Evo Rear Shock Spring
Powdercoated Red, Fits the new 2015+ Evo 2-stroke and 2017+ Evo 4-stroke, FACTORY EDITIONS USE AB-81028-XX
betausa.com
I was thinking at my 200lb weight that I was in between springs, but it looks like I'm right on the money with a 7.6 Kg spring.
Yinzer Moto
Well-known member
I read in the manual that the stock spring on my Evo 200 is 70N/mm. When looking at the Beta USA site is this equivalent to a 7 Kg spring? So if I'm reading the chart correctly my bike is sprung for someone 130 - 150 lbs.
Evo Rear Shock Spring
Powdercoated Red, Fits the new 2015+ Evo 2-stroke and 2017+ Evo 4-stroke, FACTORY EDITIONS USE AB-81028-XX
I was thinking at my 200lb weight that I was in between springs, but it looks like I'm right on the money with a 7.6 Kg spring.
Make sure you balance the front and rear springs, just replacing a rear could make the bike turn weird.
Now I'm really confused. On this site, re-spring recommendations vary wildly...
A) stock springs are good for any weight, no need to change (for new trials riders, slow, etc)
B) only change the rear spring, it's Ok if the front is undersprung
C) change Both Springs to match rider weight
Just curious as to why the ADVbikes Trails Ambassadors have such drastically different opinions on springs ...
Have to agree with Yinzer Moto , Change Both.
the CRF is sprung for 290# and it make the bike compliant and smooth.
Yinzer Moto
Well-known member
Now I'm really confused. On this site, re-spring recommendations vary wildly...
A) stock springs are good for any weight, no need to change (for new trials riders, slow, etc)
B) only change the rear spring, it's Ok if the front is undersprung
C) change Both Springs to match rider weight
Just curious as to why the ADVbikes Trails Ambassadors have such drastically different opinions on springs ...
Have to agree with Yinzer Moto , Change Both.
the CRF is sprung for 290# and it make the bike compliant and smooth.
Yes, lots of opinions on this. At your weight, pushing 300#, you definitely need to respring. Springs are not as critical on trials bike, you can be out of range a bit and it is ok, as long as the suspension moves in a balanced manner. You are twice the weight of what a normal bike is sprung for, so some adjustments will be needed. You can look at my YouTube for a video on suspension setup and what I mean by “a balanced manner “.
YmirTrials
Dirt herder
"A balanced manner" ......C'mon man, don't do stuff like that so early in the morning...
My improved kill switch caps are now available with a Beta logo.
A full description is in the Vendor Forum: https://advbikes.com/threads/improv...h-cap-optional-starter-button-protector.1077/
A full description is in the Vendor Forum: https://advbikes.com/threads/improv...h-cap-optional-starter-button-protector.1077/
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