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Triumph TF250X
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matty
Border raider.
The reviews will soon flood in, it will be easier to draw a conclusion of sorts then.
My Loyal To TRIUMPH Background want it to be special and a success, and its had time and money and talent thrown in to its development so with Triumph turning out some great motorcycles historically and in recent times there is no reason to expect this one to be Anything but A Triumph . I have no knowledge of build location or engine point of origin at this stage and if i did , i am sure the prejudiced opinion which i store under a big rock at the back of my mind would break free and color my opinion.
As it is i would like to see it judged on its merits rather than its build and component origins.
Either way its entering an established arena of competitors who are not short of the history money and talent in their DNA so its going to have to work well to make a real name for itself.
My Loyal To TRIUMPH Background want it to be special and a success, and its had time and money and talent thrown in to its development so with Triumph turning out some great motorcycles historically and in recent times there is no reason to expect this one to be Anything but A Triumph . I have no knowledge of build location or engine point of origin at this stage and if i did , i am sure the prejudiced opinion which i store under a big rock at the back of my mind would break free and color my opinion.
As it is i would like to see it judged on its merits rather than its build and component origins.
Either way its entering an established arena of competitors who are not short of the history money and talent in their DNA so its going to have to work well to make a real name for itself.
Danno
Well-known member
I would take an ajp before a trumpet dirt bike...unless it is one of those cool cubs ment to compete with a ty. I got scruples..
Danno
Well-known member
I watched Ricky get smoked in 2005 at Daytona. Reed realed him in on a fire breathing yz250. Ricky got spit off in the whoops chasin. Reed was faster every lap and found a bump to clear the jump before the berm. Reed picked up his tuner and they rode to the winners circle! Takes more than Ricky to sell me.
For an aluminum frame that looks to be slim and give great access to the engine. Black plastics are gonna look 100 years old after a couple tanks of fuel, but plastics are pretty much disposable anyway.
Looks like they are only offering a 250cc MX model for now? Is that right?
matty
Border raider.
Might be some more info you can take from this, info is not really out there in shedfulls.
We have a name! TF250X
Lots and lots of pics in the link:
www.vitalmx.com
Lots and lots of pics in the link:
Closeup | The Triumph TF250X Motocross Bike
Triumph brought their TF250X out in public during intermission at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum round of the SuperMotocross Championship. We were able to get close to the bike in staging and got a few in-action photos to look over. Enjoy.
Danno
Well-known member
Uncle Ron? Never! Oh I just cant get excited about 4 stroke mx bikes. But I will never shut up about 4 stroke air cooled trail playbikes. I think my rxv 550 fixed my 12,000 rpm 4 stroke dirt/enduro desires. A carb 2 stroke is so much more fun!
Danno
Well-known member
Ya a yz250x would make way more sense for me. But I do like triumphs..no doubt.
Crocodile Tears
New member
Just such an odd pursuit from a company with basically no history in real off road. Maybe got a bit too exuberant with the free money flowing the past couple years
It's using KTM's new 250 engine. That's disappointing. I hoped Triumph was doing a clean sheet bike.
KTM engine in a cast frame using KYB suspension is two steps backwards IMO.
The stepped out swingarm looks interesting, if they did to keep the bike narrow between your feet.
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KTM engine in a cast frame using KYB suspension is two steps backwards IMO.
The stepped out swingarm looks interesting, if they did to keep the bike narrow between your feet.
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RockyDS
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Are they not using this engine?
It appears to be a KTM engine with Triumph logos on some of the side covers. Looking at the main cases, cylinder head, water pump, starter, etc. they're identical.
This is a 2023 KTM 250 SX engine.
It's entirely possible that Triumph have made changes inside the engine like camshaft profile, compression ratio, etc. Don't think there's any way of knowing just yet.
This is a 2023 KTM 250 SX engine.
It's entirely possible that Triumph have made changes inside the engine like camshaft profile, compression ratio, etc. Don't think there's any way of knowing just yet.
Cheesy way to go if you ask me.
Copycats feel dirty, whether it's Chinese or under the Union Jack. When Kawasaki and Suzuki started selling each other bikes it felt lazy. They didn't care enough to even produce something, but they still wanted me to buy "their" bike. No, thanks. KTM and Yamaha never stopped taking dirt bikes seriously and they continued to innovate and push the technology forward, to the benefit of the rider. I struggle to take either brand (Kawasaki or Suzuki) seriously today.
If you don't have enough pride in your own brand to build your own machine...meh.
If you don't have enough pride in your own brand to build your own machine...meh.
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Madmx
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Then again sharing parts means higher production runs and hopefully lower consumer cost. While still being competitive on the small details. I wonder who owns a patent on the wheel and axle idea. There are only so many ways to produce billet triple clamps. And I want the proven part. Not some new idea that could fail or replacements are unobtanium.